Patrick chats with Tom Russell

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Patrick chats with Tom Russell

Join host Patrick Bass on the Patrick Bass Show, brought to you live from Fort Smith, Arkansas, courtesy of the World Wide Web and affiliate radio stations across the globe. In this episode, Patrick welcomes special guest Tom Russell, a former Marine, to discuss a wide range of topics from politics and culture to personal anecdotes and humor. This is not your typical conservative talk show; it’s unfiltered, honest, and definitely not for liberals.

The conversation covers everything from spicy food adventures and military experiences to current events and humorous takes on life. Patrick and Tom also delve into the importance of supporting veterans, sharing insights about the Wounded Warrior Project, and reminiscing about their military days. The episode wraps up with a fun game called “Spy the Lie” and engaging discussions about food, family, and the quirks of everyday life.

Whether you’re here for the politics, the humor, or the heartfelt stories, this episode has something for everyone. Tune in for an hour of engaging and thought-provoking conversation with Patrick Bass and Tom Russell.

Episode Transcript:

Patrick Bass (00:03.506) If you're listening to this message, then you, then you are the resistance, the resistance. Vanguard Radio Network. Okay, cue everybody, we're going live in five, four, three, two, one. and now live from Ford Smith, Arkansas. This is a planet wide broadcast courtesy of the World Wide Web and affiliate radio stations across the globe. It's the Patrick Bass show with your host, Patrick Bass. Patrick Bass (00:44.978) Brought to you by the power of the internet, Patrick Bass Show. joined with my co -host today, Tom Russell. If this is your first time, listen, listen, welcome. Welcome to the Patrick Bass Show. Fair warning, this is not your daddy's conservative talk show. I'm your host. We're going to give it to you straight today, folks. We're going to be talking about politics, culture, everything in between. But what I promise you, what I guarantee you is no fluff, no apologies, and it's definitely not for liberals. If you're looking for honest, unfiltered conservative perspectives, Tom Russell (00:57.107) Say everybody. Patrick Bass (01:25.906) You are in the right place. So without further ado, we're going to get started right after this. I, you know, I always, if you, if you haven't listened to my show before, you know, I always support the wounded warrior project. We're going to listen to it. And then we'll be right back after this quick message on the Patrick Bass show coming to you live from Vanguard radio network in Fort Smith, Arkansas. On the battlefield, there's a saying America's military men and women live by never leave a fallen warrior behind ever. off the battlefield wounded warrior project operates with the same goal wounded warrior project was created to help our men and women returning home with the scars of war whether those scars are physical or mental wounded warrior project we never leave a fallen warrior behind ever learn more about what we do at woundedwarriorproject .org the station the hottest girls listen to this is vanguard radio network hey tom how's it going man? Tom Russell (02:23.507) Hey, how's it going? It's going pretty good. It's Friday. Yeah, thank Christ. Patrick Bass (02:24.754) Hey, so we made it. Where were you sitting at man? Where you what part of the world are you in? Okay, it's actually a state in itself. It's not a city within a state. Okay, yeah, no, I think I think most of us know where Delaware is. Tom Russell (02:32.947) Delaware. It's actually a state in itself. It's not a city within a state. A lot of people don't know that. Tom Russell (02:47.923) No, no, the old joke is, you know, you tell people from you're from Delaware and it's a, what states that in. Patrick Bass (02:54.514) That's funny. You know, the thing around here, what kind of sayings do you, because down here in Arkansas, the saying is always, if you don't like the weather, wait five minutes, it will change. Do you have stuff like that in Delaware? No, Delaware has an identity crisis. It doesn't know what it wants to be. Half the time it wants to be Maryland and half the time it wants to be Philadelphia. So it's, we don't have our own. Tom Russell (03:06.707) No, Delaware has an identity crisis. It doesn't know what it wants to be. Half the time it wants to be Maryland and half the time it wants to be Philadelphia. So it's, we don't have our own colloquialisms really. It's, we kind of steal from everybody else, unfortunately. Patrick Bass (03:16.914) localism really it's we kind of steal from everybody else unfortunately I mean cuz let's face it it's on the smaller side of size right I mean it's like one of the speak next to Rhode Island it's the smallest okay okay what do you guys do for fun in Delaware go to other states pack up and get the fuck out okay all right no it's a that's that's the one good thing about Delaware is Tom Russell (03:24.051) Mm -hmm. I think next to Rhode Island, it's the smallest. So. Tom Russell (03:36.467) pack up and get the fuck out. Yeah. No, it's a, that's, that's the one good thing about Delaware is, we don't have a ton to do within the state, but because we're in such close proximity to, you know, a lot of other states, if you want to go somewhere, it's no more than an hour or two away, you know, Patrick Bass (03:46.93) We don't have a ton to do within the state, but because we're in such close proximity to a lot of other states, if you want to go somewhere, it's no more than an hour or two away. Yeah, that is the nice thing. And I remember when I lived, I used to live in Western Massachusetts. So, I mean, it was nothing for you to go to, you know, Connecticut or New York or, you know, take a drive over to Boston, you know, that was not uncommon. I mean, most people, you know, where we lived in Western Mass was, it was tiny, it was kind of rural. And so there wasn't a whole lot to do there unless you wanted to go fishing or something. And so if you wanted to do anything, I mean, you got up and packed up and got out and went somewhere. Tom Russell (04:33.555) Mm hmm. Yeah, that's very similar how it is here. I mean, it's it's more. More suburban than it is rural in most places, but. There's still not a whole ton to do. One of the things I do like to do, we were discussing it earlier today in June. I'm actually going to go shooting. That's always fun. Patrick Bass (04:34.61) Yeah, so. Yeah, that's very similar how it is here. I mean, it's more suburban than it is rural in most places, but there's still not a whole ton to do. Yeah. One of the things I do like to do, we were discussing it earlier today, in June, I'm actually going to go shooting. That's always fun. That is fun. What's your weapon of choice? Tom Russell (04:55.699) Yeah. man, that's a tough one. If we're talking sidearms, 1911 all day, every day. I mean, yeah, there's been a lot of advancements in firearms, but if you look at any modern firearm, it's based heavily off the 1911's action. And for me, it's just, you know, a lot of my friend has a carry, he's a nine mil carry that he really likes, but it's polymer. And... Patrick Bass (05:02.226) sidearms 1911 okay that's old school yeah i mean there's been a lot of advancements in firearms but if you look at any modern firearm it's based heavily off the 1911s And for me, it's just, you know, a lot of my friend has a carry. He's a nine mil carry that he really likes, but it's, it's polymer. Okay. And, we were just having a discussion the other day about how he can't get aftermarket grips for it because the frame is polymer. Whereas with my 1911, I have the aftermarket marksmanship grips. And, anyway, long story, even longer for talking sidearm 1911. if you're talking long arm, Tom Russell (05:28.371) We were just having a discussion the other day about how he can't get aftermarket grips for it because the frame is polymer. Whereas with my 1911, I have the aftermarket marksmanship grips. And anyway, long story even longer, if we're talking sidearm, 1911. If you're talking long arm, I mean, I use the 16 a lot. That's always nice. They're AR -15, whatever platform you want to call it. But. Patrick Bass (05:48.338) I mean, I use the 16 a lot. That's always nice. They're AR -15, whatever platform you want to call it. But one I'd really like to use, and I never really had a chance, is the M1A or M14. cool. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why. It's just, I don't know. Tom Russell (05:56.243) one I'd really like to use and I never really had a chance is the M1A or M14. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why, it's just, I don't know. It looks good. Patrick Bass (06:06.706) It looks good. You know for the longest time and by the way, I mean in case folks didn't see it, you know a couple of things about weapons. I mean you are, I see the hat and the, you know, what was it called, the cover, the cap? Yeah, the cover, yeah. My blues cover. I was in the Marine Corps a lifetime ago. Okay. I was an infantryman, so I was an 0311 rifleman. Wow. Back during the Iraq invasion. So I've got a little bit of time behind the trigger. Tom Russell (06:18.515) Yeah, the cover. Yeah. Yeah, my blues cover. Yeah, it's I was in the Marine Corps a lifetime ago. I was an infantryman. So I was an 0311 rifleman back during the Iraq invasion. So I've got a little bit of time behind the trigger. Yeah. Patrick Bass (06:32.338) Alright, yeah, so these are not just the opinions of somebody who occasionally goes shooting. I mean, you were a professional gun, you know, as you said, infantryman. Yeah, my primary MOS is 0311. My secondary MOS is 8531, which is a marksmanship coach. Every single time I shot in the Marine Corps, you have to qualify yearly. And every single time I qualified, including the first time I shot expert. Yeah. And... Tom Russell (06:39.851) yeah, my primary MOS was 0311. My secondary MOS was 8531, which is a marksmanship coach. Every single time I shot in the Marine Corps, you have to qualify yearly. And every single time I called, including the first time I shot expert. And because I had done so well, our company was looking for people to send the coaches course. Patrick Bass (07:01.01) because I had done so well, our company was looking for people to send the coaches course and just so happened to also get a secondary MOS. A lot of people, especially if you're only doing four years, don't get a secondary MOS. You just have your primary. And MOS is the number, the 0311 moniker that I've been shooting around. So yeah, but I know some stuff about shooting. I bet you do. Tom Russell (07:04.819) And just you just so happen to also get a secondary MLS. A lot of people, especially if you're only doing four years, don't get a secondary MLS. You just have your primary. And MLS is the number, the 0311 moniker that I've been shooting around. So yeah, but I know I know some stuff about shooting. Patrick Bass (07:28.594) So we kind of talked a little bit about this earlier and you told me that you're gonna go shoot a .50 caliber. Yeah, my dad has a .50 caliber. wow. Tom Russell (07:36.179) Yeah, my dad has a 50 cal. Yeah, so... Patrick Bass (07:40.274) That must have an incredible kick. I mean, I can only imagine. You know, the gun that I have a couple of guns, and I used to have a lot more, but I've got a couple now. My carry weapon is a Sig Sauer 40 cal. And then I also have a little snub note J -frame 357. Did you see the new sidearm that the military has gone with? It's the new Sig? No, I haven't. Tom Russell (07:55.099) Nice. Six good. Tom Russell (08:01.523) see the the new the new sidearm that the military has gone with it's the the new sig. Yeah, I can't remember the designation of it, but it's basically based off the 320 from what I understand. And it comes in FTE. So it's, I don't know, I kind of like it. I kind of really like it. I don't know why. I mean, to me, it looks almost like a modernized. It looks a little bit like a 2011. I don't know if you've seen those. It's the updated 1911. I think Springfield makes one, a couple other places make them. But yeah, I don't know. It looks good. You said SIG and it just reminded me that they're going with that new platform and it looks good. It looks promising. Patrick Bass (08:38.578) But yeah, I don't know, it looks good. You said SIG and it just reminded me that they're going with that new platform. It looks good, it looks promising. Yeah, I mean we used to have so many more guns. In fact, we had an armory when we owned our security business. We just had a complete armory including a couple of AR -15s. And I gotta tell you, as many guns as we had, none of them ever went crazy and started shooting people. That's so weird how an Ottoman object will do that. Tom Russell (08:50.095) Yeah, you mentioned that. Tom Russell (09:01.043) It's so weird how an item and objects don't do that. Patrick Bass (09:03.858) you know everybody wants to call it an assault rifle or you know you know something like that high you know assault rifle so i've got an assault fork it's painted black it's it's a high high capacity assault fork and as you can see it's contributed significantly to my girth be careful man if you go to the uk with that they might ban it yeah well i think i may have a case to sue the makers of the fork Tom Russell (09:25.363) Be careful man, if you go to the UK with that, they might ban it. Patrick Bass (09:36.242) Hey, I mean the way they're doing it now, aren't they trying to pass legislation? Or did they pass legislation about being able to sue the gun makers? Was that a California thing? If it happened, I mean, it almost had to be in California, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's regardless of how you feel about Second Amendment and things like that. That just opens a wild, very, very bad precedent. Yeah. Tom Russell (09:36.627) I mean, the way they're doing it now, aren't they trying to pass legislation or did they pass legislation about being able to sue the gun makers? Was that a California thing? I thought I heard. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's regardless of how you feel about Second Amendment and things like that. That just opens a wild, very, very bad precedent for like you jokingly said, you know, people, people suing the fast food companies because they ate too much. Like, how could you let me? How could you make such delicious food? Patrick Bass (10:02.642) Like you jokingly said, you know, people, people suing the fast food companies because they ate too much. How could you make such delicious food? Hey, here's something weird. And I'll bet. And if anybody in the listening audience knows this chime in. And by the way, we're on we're on Podbean Network. We are on. Riverside FM and we're on every podcast network known to man. You can check us out online Vanguardradio .net and you can also you can also check out my blog PWBass .com and by the way anybody who calls in today or sends a message asking a question participate in the show today we'll get a copy of one of my books that has recently been released and we'll be happy to send that to you. So here's the question. the national animal of Scotland. Does anybody know the national animal of Scotland? What do you think, Tom? Tom Russell (11:04.435) I don't know, off the top of my head some sort of ground -dwelling small furry creature? I don't know. I have no idea. Patrick Bass (11:05.842) my head some sort of ground willing small furry creature I don't know. We'll come back to that we'll give folks a chance to chime in and while that is happening I got some other little tidbits for you here. Average man so this will be a fill in the blank an average man uses two of these and an average woman uses four of these. What is that? Average man uses two of these and the average woman uses four of these. Patrick Bass (11:51.794) brain cells? I don't know. wow. So you said you say that men only use two brain cells but women are twice as smart because they use four. Exactly. Pillows. Pillows believe it or not. I absolutely believe that. Yeah. The question comes in do they actually use those four pillows or do they just sit on the bed like it's some sort of weird fortress. Tom Russell (11:52.467) Brain cells? I don't know. Tom Russell (12:04.211) Exactly, nobody's winning. Tom Russell (12:08.627) I absolutely believe that, yeah. The question comes in, do they actually use those four pillows or do they just sit on the bed like at some sort of weird fortress and then they all come off at night? Patrick Bass (12:17.33) You know, that's the interesting thing because there's the pillow and it's this this extends to other things. There's the pillows you can use the pillows you can't use and that extends to hand towels, soap. What else? I'd say other pillows like sofa pillows. You can't use them. Yeah. And then there's, you know, specific, you know, a lot of times there's specific pieces that I was going to say dishes like. Tom Russell (12:29.811) Mm -hmm. Yep. Tom Russell (12:35.187) I'd say other pillows like sofa pillows, you can't use those. Tom Russell (12:42.227) dishes. Patrick Bass (12:45.202) that's that's the good china you can't use the good china yeah we're waiting for the pope to come over you can't use that that's for him let's see here Tom Russell (12:49.043) Yeah, we're waiting for the Pope to come over. You can't use that. That's for him. Patrick Bass (13:03.122) Here's a good piece of trivia. Every person, obviously, we all love to celebrate our birthdays, but if you've ever been in a large group, you start to notice there seems to be a month where a lot of people are born. And as the groups get larger, that kind of tends to even out a little bit. But have you ever been in a place where there's more than just you who share the same birthday? Tom Russell (13:35.891) No. Like the actual day or like... No. Patrick Bass (13:37.394) The actual day? Yeah, the exact same day. Patrick Bass (13:46.258) What what what I'm and and Wilson I apologize for that Wilson saying I cannot hear the guest he's on our pod bean network and I was afraid of that if you go to Wilson if you go to the pod bean I mean if you go to the riverside FM channel that is posted up there you'll be able to listen to us and actually hear the guest I do apologize for that This is the first time we've used Podbean and I got to tell you I'm not a fan of it. So I don't know that we're going to continue to use Podbean but Riverside FM is is really cool. So if you want to hear the guest which I'm sure you do because let me tell you he's immensely more handsome and interesting than I am. Log in log in there. It's the URL is right there in the about. section riverside .fm slash studio slash patrick bass studio so hope to hope to catch you on riverside fm and then you can hear her you're my really cool guest tom russell former former marine devil dog hurrah or no that's army what's what do you guys say army is okay see things i don't know things i don't know Tom Russell (14:52.591) No, no, it's it's Ura. Ormi is Uwa, Marine Corps is Ura. It's it's also close. Patrick Bass (15:04.178) You share your birthday with about 9 million people. Do I? Apparently. Tom Russell (15:08.595) Why? in a world of 8 billion that's still pretty pretty small but yeah. Patrick Bass (15:12.754) That's still pretty small. That could be one of those cinematic movies in a world of 8 billion. Patrick Bass (15:23.41) In a world of eight billion, nine million people share a birthday. But only one will live. Only one will make it. Will it be you? Tom Russell (15:23.859) You got the... You got the vo... There you go, you're already writing the story. Tom Russell (15:36.083) It's like Highlander, but with nine million people. Patrick Bass (15:37.298) In a world of 8 billion, there can be only one. Tom Russell (15:46.355) That sounds like a... What is it? That's like some I Am Legend stuff. Patrick Bass (15:46.994) That sounds like some I Am Legend stuff. Yeah. Let's see here. Patrick Bass (16:01.7) more than a quarter of the women surveyed, so over 25 % surveyed, admitted that they would make their best friend fat for life if it meant that they could be thin. Tom Russell (16:27.987) This is my not shocked face. Patrick Bass (16:28.274) That's that that that. Tom Russell (16:33.651) Sorry for the blur. Patrick Bass (16:36.53) I think that's what happened to me. Somebody is running around thin now because they took that deal and made me the Patsy. Tom Russell (16:51.379) gotta be honest and this is just from an outside observers perspective I've only had maybe two female friends my whole life females go after each other like you know they'll they'll I've witnessed it with my own eyes where you're in a group and they're all very nice to each other's face and then when one leaves they're like they just tear into them I don't Patrick Bass (17:00.338) Females go after each other. I've witnessed it with my own eyes where you're in a group and they're all very nice to each other's face and then when one leaves they're like, they just tear into him. I don't believe it. I mean, guys are almost the exact opposite. Guys will bust each other's balls all day and then when they leave it's like, he's a good guy. Yeah. My wife has asked me this before. She's like, is the guy code real? The guy code. Tom Russell (17:14.483) I don't believe it. I mean, guys are almost the exact opposite. Guys will bust each other's balls all day and then when they leave it's like, he's a good guy. Patrick Bass (17:29.458) And I told her that, cause she was asking, can one guy date a woman who was going out with their best friend? Or is that against the guy code? And I'm like, listen, there's the guy code, but if they're not going out, it's a free market. Yeah, I mean, there's nuance to everything, but I would say in general, just based on, in general. Tom Russell (17:29.747) Yeah. Tom Russell (17:50.035) Yeah, I mean, there's nuance to everything, but I would say in general, just based on in general, that's that's a taboo. I would stay away from that. I personally, I would stay away from that. But if I'm being 100 % honest, it's not necessarily because of a code. It's more like a hygiene thing. More like a transit of properties thing. Patrick Bass (17:56.562) That's a taboo. I would stay away from that. You think so? Personally, I would stay away from that, but if I'm being 100 % honest, it's not necessarily because of a code. It's more like a hygiene thing. More like a transitive properties thing. Because you know where your friend's been. Exactly. I know this guy. I don't want to be near anywhere. See, that's very pragmatic. I wasn't even thinking about that, but that's a good point. Tom Russell (18:15.539) Exactly! I know this guy! I don't want to be near anywhere he's been! Tom Russell (18:24.947) Yeah, a lot of people mask it with the code and I think there is something of a code, but I think the large portion of it is just. I don't, I know that guy and I don't want to be where he's been. Patrick Bass (18:25.106) A lot of people mask it with the code and I think there is something of a code. Patrick Bass (18:35.858) they are you are you into chuck norris jokes i heard one the other day it said when orc zuckerberg created facebook and logged in for the first time he had a friend request from chuck norris the best one i ever heard and it's so stupid but it just cracked me up was when chuck norris jumps in the ocean he doesn't get wet the ocean gets chuck norris Tom Russell (18:41.683) yeah. Tom Russell (18:52.211) best one I ever heard and it's so stupid but it just cracked me up was when Chuck Norris jumps in the ocean he doesn't get wet the ocean gets Chuck Norris Patrick Bass (19:03.826) Chuck Norris kicked a horse in the jaw once. The resulting creature is now known as a giraffe. Tom Russell (19:15.539) They were really popular back in the early 2000s. Patrick Bass (19:15.57) Let's keep this going. Patrick Bass (19:20.754) Chuck Norris can take two pieces of fire, rub them together, and make wood. Tom Russell (19:29.747) These are all like dad jokes. The perfect dad jokes. Patrick Bass (19:32.434) Yeah, dad jokes. Patrick Bass (19:36.818) Let's see what's going on in the world today. Do you remember DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Will Smith? In 1991, today in 1991, he released his single Summertime. Tom Russell (19:45.363) Mm -hmm. yeah. Tom Russell (19:56.531) Really? I feel like I was older. In 1991 I was like 10. I feel like I was older when that came out. Maybe not. Patrick Bass (20:02.578) 1986 so going back for what is that five years I have a college degree and I can't do simple math man nasty by Janet Jackson entered the top 40 in the US Tom Russell (20:10.035) Yeah. Tom Russell (20:20.627) In 86? Patrick Bass (20:23.602) These must be right. I got them on the internet. They must be right. it's gotta be true then, yeah. Even earlier than that. Were you a Kiss fan? Tom Russell (20:27.151) it's gotta be true then, yeah. Tom Russell (20:33.267) I know of them, I really don't know their work though. Patrick Bass (20:35.89) Okay, all right. So if you're not a Kiss fan, this may not be important to you, but in 1980, the drummer, let's see, was he the cat? He was the cat. Peter Criss quits Kiss and is replaced by Eric Carr. Who quits one of the most famous rock bands in the world? And you know, I was talking to my wife about this the other day. These actors who... you know get these gigs on reoccurring thematic or episodic shows and then you know you're getting into the show and and i'll make a point about this did you see tulsa king with sylvester stalone yeah yeah i think is there more than one season because i saw the first no there was one season and then he quit because it was so tough and isn't he like pushing 80 well so what he's he's rocky Tom Russell (21:15.763) Yeah, yeah, I think there's more than one season because I saw the first season. Tom Russell (21:23.411) Isn't he like pushing 80? Patrick Bass (21:28.05) You know, and I'm like, how can you know, isn't that every actor's dream to be on a successful TV show and then they quit because it's really tough? Yeah, but not to sound crude, I think Sylvester Stallone probably has fucking money at this point. Probably. Yeah. yeah, absolutely. He does. Absolutely. He did come and go as he pleases. Yeah. But Tulsa King was an awesome, awesome. And I liked it. Yeah. And, you know, being so close to Tulsa. I mean, we're not an hour and a half away from Tulsa. It was cool. Tom Russell (21:36.083) Yeah, but enough to sound crude. I think Sylvester Stallone probably has fuck you money at this point, so he can choose to... Yeah, he can choose to come and go as he pleases, you know. I liked it. Tom Russell (21:57.075) Yeah. Did they represent it well? Because I've never been. Patrick Bass (21:57.362) and and speaking of Tulsa well i mean Tulsa's kind of because i've never been well well let me put it to you this way you're not missing anything but for us it's you know to go into a big city it's like either Little Rock or Tulsa you know so so yeah i mean there's some nice stuff in Tulsa but do you remember you remember who Sam Kennison is right yeah yeah Tom Russell (22:22.611) Yeah, yeah. It's one of the greats. Patrick Bass (22:24.242) Well, come to find out he's buried in Tulsa. Really? Yeah, I didn't know that. You assume that's because he's from there or something? Yeah, well, I don't know all the details, but his mother, so he was a preacher, a Pentecostal preacher, and his mother had a church in Tulsa that he used to preach at all the time. And then he became Sam Kenison. And then after he died, he was put in a real tiny, just a... Tom Russell (22:28.755) Really? I assume that's because he's from there or something? Tom Russell (22:39.763) Didn't know that. Patrick Bass (22:53.962) simple little grave you know over there in Tulsa but who knows I mean you know the guy the guy was you you could tell he was an amazing comedian absolutely amazing but if you if you do any research about his life I mean the guy kind of had a rough I think he was tormented I think a lot of those comedians are tormented I believe it I heard it before and I don't I don't want to quote any statistics Tom Russell (22:57.011) I didn't know that. Tom Russell (23:19.059) I believe it. I heard it before and I don't, I don't want to quote any statistics that I don't remember and have them be wrong, but, just about every, especially all the famous comedians, the Robin Williams, the Sam Kinnissens, the John Belushi's, you know, Chris Farley, the big ones, the ones that really, you know, you remember, they're all like clinically depressed and being a comedian is kind of, I don't want to say what helps a mascot, but it kind of helps them cope. Patrick Bass (23:28.21) all the famous comedians the robin williams the sam kinesons the john boluski's you know chris farley the big ones the ones that really you know you remember they're all like clinically depressed yeah and being a comedian is kind of i don't want to say what helps a mask it it kind of helps them cope. Like some of the funniest people you'll ever meet are some of the most downtrodden and depressed internally. Yeah, like remember Jonathan Winters? Is that his name? I mean, I mean, this is going back a few years, but I mean, yeah, a lot of those, a lot of those communities were just like clinically depressed. And, you know, I guess comedy was a way for them to cope. Tom Russell (23:49.427) Like some of the funniest people you'll ever meet are some of the most downtrodden and depressed internally, you know. Tom Russell (24:07.251) Mm -hmm. Yeah. Mm -hmm. It's like a medicine form. Patrick Bass (24:14.61) Before I forget, so the animal of Scott, was it Scotland? The national animal is a unicorn. Tom Russell (24:20.179) Mm -hmm. Tom Russell (24:27.027) That's a trick question. Patrick Bass (24:27.986) I Hey I agree with you, but I mean, like I said, this information came directly from the internet. So it must, you know. It's gotta be true then. But here's my thing. If it is true, I feel like their national animal should be a gopher. And I don't have any scientific basis for that. That's just how I feel. I feel like aiming for unicorns a little high for Scotland. Well, yeah. But after me, Lucky Charms, is that, no, that's Irish. Tom Russell (24:38.323) Hey, it's got to be true then but here's my thing if it is true I Feel like their national animal should be a gopher and I don't have any scientific basis for that. That's just how I feel I Feel like aiming for unicorns a little high for Scotland Patrick Bass (25:02.834) So are you gonna watch the presidential debate? Did I watch it or am I watching it? I think they're gonna have it on the 27th of June. If they actually end up doing it, here's my thing. I'm just gonna get this out of the way. Anything that they do, and by they I mean Biden and the left. Tom Russell (25:04.147) potato potato. Did I watch it or am I watching it? If they actually end up doing it, here's my thing. All right, I'm just going to get this out of the way. Anything that they do, and by they I mean Biden and the left, is evil. Like I think they recently they just saw, and I don't mean, what was the phrase I used earlier? Like misguided fools. I don't mean that. I mean, it's legit Prince of Darkness style stuff because... Patrick Bass (25:24.754) evil. Like I think they recently they just saw and I don't mean. Patrick Bass (25:32.242) I used earlier, like misguided fools. I don't mean that. I mean, it's legit Prince of Darkness style stuff because if you look at it, like they were going to ban TikTok. I think he maybe even signed the legislation at this point. On the face of it, it's like, that's not a bad idea. It's owned by the CCP. You know, it makes sense. And then I think to myself, well, if they're doing it, there's got to be some evil shit behind it. They're not doing it because it's good. Tom Russell (25:40.691) if you look at it like they were going to ban TikTok. I think he maybe even signed the legislation at this point. On this on the face of it, it's like, that's not a bad idea. It's owned by the CCP, you know, it makes sense. And then I think to myself, well, if they're doing it, there's got to be some evil shit behind it. They're not doing it because it's good. And then I come to find out later that they it's kind of laying the groundwork for them to go after Twitter or X, whatever. Patrick Bass (26:01.33) and then I come to find out later that it's kind of laying the groundwork for them to go after Twitter or X whatever they refer to as these days. Yeah. You know, under the guise of, you know, no we wanna... because it's the CCP, well wait a minute, that never bothered you before. Right. You know, Eric Swalwell sleeps with their spies and nothing happens to him. So all of a sudden you're concerned about the CCP and I'm supposed to buy that raft of shit? No. I'm not. Tom Russell (26:08.979) want to refer to it as these days you know under the guise of you know no we want to because it's the ccp well wait a minute that never bothered you before you you know erik swelwell sleeps with their spies and nothing happens to him so all of a sudden you're concerned about the ccp and i'm supposed to buy that raft of shit no i'm not Patrick Bass (26:30.162) Well, and you know, pardon me, but, you know, I haven't decided if I'm going to watch it. I don't know if there's any point to it. One of the stipulations that Biden had about agreeing to the debate is that there can be no audience. And I guess the rationale there is that President Trump, you know, draws a lot of inspiration from the crowd. Tom Russell (26:31.091) Sorry. Tom Russell (26:49.139) Mm -hmm. Patrick Bass (26:59.282) and president biden doesn't really draw crowded if you've ever seen him at some of these press conferences when they can't pan out and zoom out the only people there is press are very few you know supporters i feel like if that is the case then they have a very child like understanding of trump they view him as a caricature not as Tom Russell (27:12.115) Yeah. Yeah. I feel like if that is the case, then they have a very childlike understanding of Trump. They view him as a caricature and not as who he really is. Now granted, he puts on a face, but not having an audience, I don't think is going to impact him one iota. Patrick Bass (27:24.818) he really is. I'm a great he puts on a face, but not having an audience. I don't think it's going to impact him one iota. No, I don't think so either because you know, I think I think he he draws he the guy is obviously driven in everything that he does. And, you know, he's successful in so many things, obviously. But he he has this internal energy. Honestly, I don't know if I would be I know I wouldn't be able to match it. I don't know many people who could match it. And if you think about it, what does he really have to gain by putting himself through this? He has nothing to gain. And to me, that indicates his true reason for doing it. Because he loves his country and he wants to help make it better. And so, you know, Tom Russell (28:22.963) to it. Patrick Bass (28:26.418) Is he a polished politician? Absolutely not. And I think that's one of his strengths. But, you know, people got so wrapped up over his tweets. And, you know, I mean, honestly, probably shouldn't have said a lot of that stuff. But you got to respect a guy who says exactly what he thinks, has very few filters. It's what you see is what you get. And, you know... the Republican Party sure has not had anybody better to put out there. I mean, if somebody was better, where were they? The American people clearly spoke and want Trump again. So the question comes down to, you know, is he going to be allowed to run? And is he going to be allowed by this judge in New York to have an effective campaign or is he going to be, you know, basically... told that he can't say this or that and you know his first amendment right to free speech will be violated i don't know and and and if the election does happen what i what i'm afraid of is if if it's really close and he loses by a thin margin or if there's a belief that he wins like last time and is denied from taking office. I have a fear over what will happen to our country if that happens. Tom Russell (29:59.923) Well, I mean, they've been trying very hard for decades and really ramping it up these last few years to disarm the population, which is like, you know, dictator handbook 101. Tom Russell (30:16.595) But I don't think they're there yet. So I don't know. See, they are evil, but some of them are stupid too. So I don't know how far they would push that. And not to, listen, I'm not trying to incite anything and I hope nothing happens. I hope we're all safe in our beds and he wins and everything gets better. But in my mind, a lot of the guys I served with, a lot of guys that I know and have served in the last 20 years, Patrick Bass (30:18.162) So I don't know. See, they are evil, but some of them are stupid too. So I don't know how far they would push that. Yeah. But not to listen, I don't I'm not trying to incite anything and I hope nothing happens. I hope we're all safe in our beds and he wins and everything gets better. in my mind, a lot of the guys I served with, a lot of guys that I know and have served, you know, in the last 20 years that they've been building soldiers and Marines and warriors and sending them off to fight and, Tom Russell (30:44.563) that they've been building soldiers and Marines and warriors and sending them off to fight. Most of those guys are conservative. I mean, if not balls to the wall conservative, they have conservative views. And I hate to say it, but the government has spent, like I said, the last 20 years building warriors. So I think if they try to do anything like that, Patrick Bass (30:55.442) I mean, if not balls to the wall conservative, they have conservative views. And I hate to say it, but the government has spent, like I said, the last 20 years building warriors. So I think if they try to do anything like that, number one, you've got all these people with legit combat experience and a lot of them have a desire to do it again. You know, it's a transition back to the world. Tom Russell (31:12.147) Number one, you've got all these people with with legit combat experience and a lot of them have a desire to do it again. You know, it's it's a transition back to the world from that environment back to this fantasy world that we live in. That's that's the hard part and they made that transition, but there's always that part in the back of a lot of guys heads where it's like I could do it again. I kind of want to do it again. And that's I think that's. Patrick Bass (31:25.074) from that environment back to this fantasy world that we live in. That's the hard part. And they've made that transition. But there's always that part in the back of a lot of guys' heads where it's like, I can do it again. I kind of want to do it again. Yeah. I get that. And I saw that. I mentioned earlier, we had a security business. And there was one man that worked for us. And he had also, coincidentally, been a Marine. But his greatest wish in life was to go back. Tom Russell (31:54.451) Mm -hmm. I know a lot of guys like that. I know a lot of guys like that. It's I don't know. I don't want to say it's a good thing or a bad thing. It's just something that happens and I think Yeah, I think that where it shines that it's bad is because society is telling you it's bad. You know, if society wasn't telling you it was bad and you got back, I think a lot of these guys would be okay, but it's such a weird juxtaposition of like... Patrick Bass (31:55.378) to Afghanistan. Patrick Bass (32:03.346) It's a good thing or a bad thing. It's just something that happens. It just is what it is, right? Yeah, I think that where it shines that it's bad is because society is telling you it's bad. Yeah. I think a lot of these guys would be okay, but it's such a weird juxtaposition of like realities coming from there, coming back here. And then especially once you EAS, once you actually get out and they're like, you know, you get two weeks of something called tip and tap, which is basically, it's supposed to be a class that helps you transition back into the civilian world. What it ends up actually being is for me, it was some old hippie telling us that we need to, Tom Russell (32:24.275) realities coming from there, coming back here, and then especially once you EAS, once you actually get out. And they're like, you know, you get two weeks of something called tip and tap, which is basically, it's supposed to be a class that helps you transition back into the civilian world. What it ends up actually being is for me, it was some old hippie telling us that we need to use our GI bill and go on unemployment. Like it was, it did not help at all. Patrick Bass (32:46.452) to use your GI bill and go on unemployment. It did not help at all. Do you ever see that movie, The Men Who Stare at Goats? No, but I've heard about it. You ought to check it out. Because when you said hippie guy, it made me think about that the commander of that unit was a colonel who was, he started out, you know, the premise of the movie is he started out as this gung -ho army ranger. Tom Russell (32:56.243) No, but I've heard about it. That's the old. Patrick Bass (33:16.274) and the army had gotten wind of this unit that supposedly the Russians had that were experimenting with metaphysical stuff and like remote viewing and things like that and so this guy kind of got recruited to figure out what that was start his own you know counter unit and and staff it and man it and run it and so he started out going to live in a commune and taking a bunch of lsd. and he was just far out man and anyway I don't want to ruin the movie but if you haven't seen it if you have some time this we can you know check it out I think it's a pretty good movie yeah I'll have to give it a watch I've heard good things and I heard it's actually based on a true story yeah and they call themselves Jedi Knights so Tom Russell (33:59.475) it a watch. I've heard good things and I heard it's actually based on a true story. Tom Russell (34:12.211) Well, and yeah, I have to give it a watch. I didn't mean to derail too much, but my point was going back to what happens if Trump gets elected or doesn't get elected or something, you know, bad happens during that time. I think it would be a mistake for them to try anything because of the points I previously mentioned. And the other thing is we have an entirely volunteer citizen military. And while I know it's changed in the 20 years since I was in, Patrick Bass (34:12.37) But yeah, I have to give it a watch. I didn't mean to derail too much. But my point was going back to what happens if Trump gets elected or doesn't get elected or something bad happens during that time. I think it would be a mistake for them to try anything because of the points I previously mentioned. And the other thing is we have an entirely volunteer citizen military. Yeah. And while I know it's changed in the 20 years since I was in. Tom Russell (34:41.523) I don't believe it's changed so much that you're going to have people that will follow orders to attack their own people. I'm sure you will have some. You'll have some robots that will just do whatever they're told to do. But I think the vast majority will not turn their guns on their own people. So that gives me a little bit of comfort. Patrick Bass (34:42.066) I don't believe it's changed so much that you're going to have people that will follow orders to attack their own people. I'm sure you will have some. You'll have some robots that will just do whatever they're told to do. But I think the vast majority will not turn their guns on their own people. Let's hope not. That gives me a little bit of comfort. Yeah. You know, one of the things they're doing here in Fort Smith is we have an Air National Guard base at our airport here. and they are expanding it to be a flight training center for foreign military and we're going to have I mean you know they're allied nations supposedly but we're going to have we're going to be training f -16 and f -35 pilots from I think four or five different other countries. Tom Russell (35:17.459) Hmm. Tom Russell (35:33.139) Mm. Patrick Bass (35:33.49) and they're going to be you know they're expecting I think the last I heard it was like between 1500 and 3000 foreign military living here during their training and so when when you think about how big ford smith is that's a significant percentage of our population that will be represented by foreign nationals who are military officers Tom Russell (35:44.595) Thanks a lot. Tom Russell (35:54.259) Mm -hmm. Patrick Bass (36:00.722) and by the way they're flying you know sophisticated fighter jets right over my house literally right over my house so let's let's hope that you know there's no red cells Tom Russell (36:15.699) Yeah, man, I don't know. I don't want to be black. I don't want to black pill anybody. That stuff does creep up on me sometimes. Just being a student of history, it's not a difficult stretch to see where they absolutely want to take things. I'm hoping we have the checks and balances to prevent it from going there. But I think unless you've got your head buried in the sand or completely ignorant of human history, Patrick Bass (36:20.87) I agree with you. We're going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back and I got a little Tom Russell (36:43.315) you can see what's going on. You can see the writing on the wall. Patrick Bass (36:50.804) on a play with you called Spy the Lie. So we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. Tom Russell (36:53.427) Sounds good. Patrick Bass (37:18.93) battlefield there's a saying America's military men and women live by never leave a fallen warrior behind ever off the battlefield wounded warrior project operates with the same goal wounded warrior project was created to help our men and women returning home with the scars of war whether those scars are physical or mental wounded warrior project we never leave a fallen warrior behind ever learn more about what we do at woundedwarriorproject .org Welcome back to segment two of the Patrick Bass Show. Where'd you get that body from? Hey, this is the Patrick Bass Show here with Tom Russell, and we've been talking about all sorts of stuff, and we're going to play a little game now called Spy the Lie. So, Tom, I'm going to... give you five options, four or five options. One of them is a lie. And so you have to pick the lie. Okay. And so I've got three different questions. And if anybody from our listening audience who's listening in on Podbean, if they want to get in on this, if they get a correct answer and send me their contact information, I have a special gift for them. So here's the first question. All of the following movies, open in theaters this weekend this weekend except for one first movie babes cheese steelers if in our day and thelma the unicorn which is the lie i'll say them again babes cheese steelers if in our day and thelma the unicorn Tom Russell (39:12.979) I want to say cheese Steelers. Patrick Bass (39:13.426) Why do you say that one? Tom Russell (39:17.907) I don't know, because all the others are silly enough to be real. Patrick Bass (39:21.074) enough to be real. You're right. Gee Stillers is the lie. Okay here's the next one. All of the following are teams in a professional ping pong league and by the way I did not realize we had professional ping pong leagues so all the following are teams in professional ping pong leagues except for one spy the lie. First option the Carolina Paddlers. Second the Florida Crocs. the Seattle Spinners, the Texas Smash, and the Chicago Wind. Which is the lie? It could be any of those. Tom Russell (40:02.867) I'd say Texas Smash, but... Patrick Bass (40:03.25) Texas Smash. It's the paddlers the Carolina paddlers. Is it? Yeah they're actually this their name is actually the Carolina Gold Rush. Okay yeah see to me the paddlers made sense but I guess it made too much sense in regards to a name. Okay last one last spy the lie the fall all the following are names of ships operated by the Norwegian cruise lines except for one spy the lie here they go. Tom Russell (40:07.507) Is it? Tom Russell (40:12.403) Okay, yeah, see, to me the paddlers made sense, but I guess it made too much sense in regards to a name. Patrick Bass (40:31.73) The Norwegian aqua. The Norwegian bliss. The Norwegian jewel. The Norwegian fjord. And finally, the Norwegian prima, or prima. Spot the lie. It's the Norwegian fjord. Really? Yeah. Who would have guessed, right? Yeah. Those are kind of cheating a little bit, but usually they're supposed to be a really obvious one in there. Yeah. So here, this is for you, Tom. Like your girlfriend, but hotter. That's for you. Okay. So let's, we're going to play this other game. Tom Russell (40:57.555) Yeah, I feel like those are kind of cheating a little bit that usually they're supposed to be a really obvious one in there. Tom Russell (41:11.123) Ha ha. Patrick Bass (41:25.65) No, actually I'm not gonna play that one with you, that's too weird. top five signs this is a little you know fodder here top finds do you like spicy food by the way yes so i'll tell you a quick story before i tell you tell you this when my wife and i were dating we went to this thai restaurant and i got pad thai chicken pad thai and i wanted to show off so they're like how how hot you want you know and i'm like i want five Tom Russell (41:39.059) Yes. Patrick Bass (41:59.538) And so I'm eating this stuff and I realized that I could not feel my lips. And then, and then it hit me. The intense burning of my mouth. I, I was, I was, I drank like five glasses of water. I started sweating. My skin turned red and I started sweating. I started, I was short of breath and I literally had tears running out of my eye. It was the hottest and as bad as that was. Tom Russell (42:30.995) man. Patrick Bass (42:36.113) As horrible as that event was, the worst was yet to come. Patrick Bass (42:43.826) later that evening as nature performed its wicked evil trick on me and you know nature called I sat in the men's room, in the bathroom, wishing that I could die. Pretty certain that I might, and disappointed that I wouldn't. Because as bad as it, and as hot as it had been in my mouth. Tom Russell (43:10.259) you Patrick Bass (43:16.722) The pain and the fire that I felt from my bowels to this day. If you go to that part of the country where I lived and if it's a quiet night, you can hear me crying and screaming in pain. Patrick Bass (43:36.21) as I try to figure out how much milk or ice cream I would have to drink and how quickly it could work its way through my system. That reminds me of a joke. This woman from England wins the lottery. I don't even know there's a lottery in England. She's going to live large, right? So she goes to this five -star hotel and she says, hello. Tom Russell (43:43.379) No, at that point, you're not drinking the milk, you're doing something else with it. Patrick Bass (44:04.658) I'd like a milk bath, please. A milk bath, yes ma 'am. Pasteurized? No, up to me tits would be fine. Tom Russell (44:15.699) Good, I like that one. Patrick Bass (44:15.986) Here's the top five signs that you like spicy food. Number one, a fly just flew over your plate and burst into flames. Number two, you can identify each and every one of the 573 varieties of peppers. Number three, you consider ghost peppers starter food. Number four, you use cayenne pepper as a brush for athener, fresh to the heart. And number five, when your eyes water, hot sauce comes out. So if you like spicy food. I mean, there's spicy food and I mean, it should food should not hurt. No, I've got an old friend, an old Asian friend. He refers to the level of spicy that I like. He's from Singapore. Tom Russell (44:51.763) spicy food but I don't like that level of spicy food. Tom Russell (45:00.819) No, I've got an old friend, an old Asian friend, and he refers to the level of spicy that I like. He's from Singapore. He refers to it as white boy spicy. And I'm like, I'm okay with that. That's accurate. Patrick Bass (45:10.61) here first with his white boy spicy and I'm like, I'm okay with that. Hey, I go going back to the Biden and Trump debate. I've got a great idea. Let's just do jello wrestling. Let's just let's just get them in the ring man. Jello wrestle it. I think the amount of broken hips that we would have based off of that I don't know if I think it would just hurt to watch. Tom Russell (45:19.923) Mm -hmm. I thought you were going to say a drinking game. Tom Russell (45:32.019) I think the amount of broken hips that we would have based off of that, I don't know, I think it would just hurt to watch. I don't know, man. I think we should do a drinking game where anytime Biden is blatantly reading out, when he reads the the asterisk part and the teleprompter, we take a shot. Patrick Bass (45:40.178) I don't know man, I think we should do a drinking game where anytime Biden is blatantly reading out when he reads the the asterisk part and the teleprompter we take a shot. Next line, repeat the line. Pause. Tom Russell (45:54.675) Pause. Four more years. Pause. Patrick Bass (46:06.258) Let's see, George Carlin said, some people have no idea what they are doing and a lot of them are really good at it. Isn't that the truth? Patrick Bass (46:19.346) That reminds me of one of my favorite sayings that I like saying to my son. Tom Russell (46:20.147) It reminds me of one of my favorite sayings that I like saying to my son and my separated wife is, well, I'll be a smart ass about something and be like, you're such a jerk or you're such an asshole. And be like, yeah, but I'm good at it. Patrick Bass (46:29.49) I'll be a smart ass about something and be like, you're such a jerk or you're such an asshole. Yeah, but I'm good at it. Who was in that commercial they would say, do one thing and do it right? Was that Orville Ruddenbacher? Maybe? I think it was. Might be dating yourself now. Do one thing and do it right. Tom Russell (46:46.899) Maybe? I don't know, you might be dating yourself now. I don't know. I remember the pepperage farms remembers. I do remember that. Patrick Bass (46:53.49) I remember the peppered farms remember this. Hey, you know what I've realized? They don't make wine coolers anymore, do they? I don't know. You remember? Well, I'm a little bit older than you, but like back in the late 80s, mid and late 80s, wine coolers were like really popular and they had all the, I mean, you know. Fuzzy navel. I remember that, yeah. They were, they were popular up until I'd say like the early 2000s. I'm a navel inspector. I'm gonna have to ensue your belly button, please. Tom Russell (47:00.627) I don't know. Tom Russell (47:07.379) Zima. Yeah, Fuzzy Naval, I remember that, yeah. They were popular up until I'd say like the early 2000s. Tom Russell (47:21.711) But they, I mean, they kind of, it is weird. They kind of just like dropped off a cliff one day. It was weird. But I've always been a, my drink has always been Crown and Coke. Patrick Bass (47:23.858) But they, I mean, they kind of, it is weird. They kind of just like dropped off a cliff one day. It was weird. But I've always been a, my drink has always been Crown and Coke. Okay. Even when I was a young man and small story time when I was, we were on pump in Southeast Asia. This was before the war and all. We were just going on a six month deployment. We had Thailand, we had. Tom Russell (47:35.667) even when I was a young man and small story time when I was, we were on pump in Southeast Asia. This was before the war and all. We were just going on a six month deployment and we hit Thailand. We hit Hong Kong. We hit South Korea. We hit the Philippines. We had, you know, all the big ones and my buddy had gotten me started on crown and Coke. Well, one weird thing we found was there was no crown anywhere. Patrick Bass (47:52.146) south korea we hit the philippines we had you know all the big ones and my buddy had gotten me started on crown and coke well one weird thing we found was there was no crown anywhere nowhere had crown and at the time i'm i'm you know 21 i'm i'm 20 at the time and they don't care they don't check it right Tom Russell (48:05.107) nowhere had crown. And at the time, I'm, I'm, you know, 21. I'm, I'm 20 at the time, and they don't care. They don't check it. So we would, we would, you know, get off the ship and we would go try to get drunk as quick and cheaply as possible. So for about six months of my life, I was drinking 151 and Coke consistently. Patrick Bass (48:16.082) So we would get off the ship and we would go try to get drunk as quick and cheaply as possible. So for about six months of my life, I was drinking 151 and Coke consistently. And then I tried it again years later and I almost died. my God. Tom Russell (48:35.891) And then I tried it again years later and I almost died. Patrick Bass (48:40.594) Just remember, Tom, you may not be everybody's cup of tea, but you are somebody's double shot of tequila. And here's a firmly public service announcement. Just remember, folks, April is Procrastination Month. Tom Russell (48:56.519) I got a Patrick Bass (48:59.506) have you heard about all this stuff? I identify as this identifies that. and what I want to say unequivocally, I was born a male. I identify as a male, but according to Stouffer's lasagna, I'm a family of four. Tom Russell (49:16.851) Hehehehehe Patrick Bass (49:22.066) Listen, I've eaten a whole stove for this volume before. Don't feel bad. Yeah, well I went to the doctor the other day and you know everything's got AI in it now, you know, artificial intelligence and you know, what's the first thing they do when they take you back and they call you back? They take you to the scale, right? And so the scale apparently has artificial intelligence. I get on and the screen pops up and it's like it says one at a time, please. Tom Russell (49:22.291) Listen, I've eaten a whole stove for this on you before. Don't feel bad. It's not that much. Patrick Bass (49:55.922) But late at night when, my problem is I'm a late night snacker, Tom. If I could conquer late night snacking, I would probably be as skinny as you. And I told the doctor, I said, Doc, I know, I just believe in my heart that inside of me, there's a skinny guy dying to get out. I'm pretty sure I know because I ate him, he's in there. And I'll tell you what's demoralizing about. being overweight, which I recognize I am. Patrick Bass (50:31.346) And by the way, if you ever want to lose weight, if you ever want to learn how to lose weight, ask a fat person. We're really good at losing weight. In fact, I've lost the same 20 pounds over 15 times. I know exactly how to do it. But if I could figure out how to stop eating at night, I think I would get it. But late at night, I'm laying there in bed, and I hear this stuff calling for me. Patrick. Patrick. And it's never the vegetables. It's. It's always like cake or, you know, a Twinkie or so, but it's never, it's never vegetables that are calling me. They're always quiet, but you know, it's, you know, it's the other stuff. They, I don't know. I, you know, I feel like the deck is stacked against me because, you know, I'm now to the point where I have to lose enough weight to make another fat person. And that, that's, that's really the sad thing, you know. Tom Russell (51:30.483) feel bad about any of that. I don't think I've ever heard a human honestly say they're craving broccoli. Patrick Bass (51:30.898) I don't think I've ever heard a human honestly say they're craving broccoli. Yeah. Have you ever heard about these gender reveal parties? I misunderstood it apparently and now I can't go back to the park anymore but I apparently got the wrong idea about what it is. You want a list now? It's a whole thing. No, you know they count to three and you know. Tom Russell (51:42.643) Yes. Tom Russell (51:50.963) list now it's a whole thing Patrick Bass (51:58.546) No, that didn't happen. Somewhere, someone, my family, you know, and our three other listeners are like, I didn't know about that about him. Here, this is Marie Korn. Surprise, surprise, surprise. is that a Gumbel pod? Yeah. Tom Russell (52:17.011) is that a Gumber pile? Patrick Bass (52:23.058) But apparently there are diets that are better for you according to your personality. And this is a real thing. There's a there's a Dr. Robert Kushner, medical director of Northwestern Memorial Hospital's Wellness Institute in Chicago, co -authored with Nancy Kushner, Dr. Kushner's personality type diet. It says behavior patterns, habits, quirks. and moods determine the ability or inability to succeed at weight control. And so I'm going to start working on my next book right away and it's actually called the Asshole's Diet. But no seriously. Yeah there's the can't say no pleasers. You know people who are good natured, strong sense of responsibility, commitment to fan you know basically. Tom Russell (53:06.738) able to contribute to that. Patrick Bass (53:18.226) they're altruistic in their, you know, doing everything for the good of others, but they neglect themselves. So I can see that, you know. And I bet a lot of people could probably identify with that one. Yeah, that sounds like me. Does it really? Yeah, we, since, you know, the issues I had earlier in the year, a lot of talking to people and... Tom Russell (53:30.195) Thanks for watching! Tom Russell (53:33.875) Yeah, that sounds like me. Yeah, we, since, you know, the issues I had earlier in the year, a lot of talking to people and kind of soul searching on even my son, I said, you know, I focus on others to the detriment of myself. And I've been, I've been trying to make a real big, like you and I discussed, we discussed sometimes I'm currently looking for a house and that's my decision. You know, prior to this, I was always, Patrick Bass (53:46.834) soul searching on even my son said you know I focus on others to the detriment of myself and I've been I've been trying to make a real big like you and I discussed we discussed sometimes I'm currently looking for a house and that's my decision you know prior to this I was always kind of doing what everybody else wanted right I thought was best for everybody else to so Tom Russell (54:06.643) kind of doing what everybody else wanted and what I thought was best for everybody else. So, I don't know, I can identify with that. Patrick Bass (54:12.274) I don't know I can identify with that. Yeah, well you gotta, and what they're saying is you gotta learn how to say no. But the other one is the unrealistic achievers. And they're saying these are people who are successful in their work and home lives. But no matter how much weight they lose, it's never enough. This is not me. But they're, but... That reminds me of that show naked and afraid and I'm like I'm clothed and frustrated so If I was naked you would be afraid and trust me And then there's the yeah the nighttime nibblers They load up on calories in the evening that is definitely me The unguided grazers these are people that just eat basically Tom Russell (54:43.059) Hehehehehe Somebody be afraid. Patrick Bass (55:05.074) If there's food available, they eat it. It's like the seafood diet. I eat seafood and I eat it. And then the convenient consumers. These are people who are eating food that is packaged, bagged, microwavable. I can identify with this one too because, you know, some days neither one of us, me, my wife, we just don't feel like cooking. We're good at it when we want to do it. And I don't mind cooking. The thing I hate about is the cleanup. Tom Russell (55:08.979) Hehehehe Tom Russell (55:31.539) Mm -hmm. That's exactly what I was gonna say. The mess at the end is... No one wants to clean that up. Patrick Bass (55:33.746) to say the mess at the end. Yeah. And it becomes to a point where it's like it's it's almost not worth it, you know. And so I'd be like, you want to just go get a pizza tonight? Or do you want to get a schlatzky's or something like that? And so you eat this stuff. And and I'll tell you this, we have become increasingly disappointed with restaurant food. You know, Tom Russell (55:42.195) Mm. Tom Russell (56:01.395) Mm -hmm. Yeah, me too. That's weird. Patrick Bass (56:03.666) It's weird because as the prices go up, it's like the quality goes down and probably at least 50 % of the time, our order is somehow screwed up anyway. Yes, absolutely. Tom Russell (56:15.155) Yes, absolutely. I just bought dinner for my son, myself, and his girlfriend this past week. From a little Italian place not far from here. For three people, worse, for three people, three entrees. No booze, no drinks, you know, I was gonna have it delivered. $112 without tip. Patrick Bass (56:18.162) Wow. Tom Russell (56:40.147) three people. Now I've eaten at the same restaurant before and it was around like 80 so they've jacked up the prices. It's yeah I mean I can't blame them I guess but it also at the same it's it's bad all around because like I can't afford to do that and I think a lot of people are in that boat and they're just gonna go to business so it's just bad for everybody. Patrick Bass (56:41.906) see that's nuts. Well I guess their food costs are going up right? Yeah I mean I can't blame them I guess but it also at the same it's it's bad all around because like I can't afford to do that and I think a lot of people are in that boat. Yeah. It's just bad for everybody. Yeah it really is and The other thing that I've realized is there's a lot of... Patrick Bass (57:16.785) And my fear is, have you seen those shows where they kind of go behind the kitchen? Like Gordon Ramsay had one, you know, and they kind of take you in the back. And the first thing that, what does he do every time? He goes to the walk -in cooler or the freezer. And just the most horrific things. And I don't know, as much as we hate cleaning up, and granted we still eat out, but. Tom Russell (57:30.899) Mm -hmm. Patrick Bass (57:43.218) when you think about that how much you're paying, how low the quality is, afterwards you eat it and you're like, that was, you know, I guess it served its purpose, I'm not starving anymore. But when you talk about like three people for what was it, 120? 112, hardly worth it, you know. And not to mention the fact that if you have somebody in your house, Tom Russell (57:55.251) Yes. Tom Russell (58:00.115) 112, yeah. Tom Russell (58:07.187) Been it. Patrick Bass (58:10.93) who has some kind of food allergy or sensitivity and my wife cannot eat tomatoes, she cannot cannot eat onions. I mean she gets dreadfully sick. Try to try to find some food that doesn't have onions or tomatoes in it. Yeah. It's rough, so you know, I mean it's cheaper, it's healthier, it's better. And yet sometimes we're like, my God, I just don't want to do it tonight. I get it. I get it. Yeah, I'll tell you what the secret. Tom Russell (58:13.395) Mm -hmm. Tom Russell (58:18.067) Hmm. That's it. Tom Russell (58:24.947) Yeah. Tom Russell (58:38.003) Yeah, I'll tell you what the secret you probably already know this slow cooker crackpot Patrick Bass (58:40.754) You probably already know this, slow cooker crackpot. Yes. It's a one pot meal. You throw everything in, you walk away. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I get by. Yeah. No, I love those one pot meals. And I think I've got a cookbook that talks about cooking for two or slow pot cooking or something like that. Cook for eight, eat leftovers. There you go. There you go. Tom Russell (58:45.555) It's a one pot meal, you throw everything in, you walk away. That's how I get by. Tom Russell (59:03.347) Cook for eight, eat leftovers, it's fine. Patrick Bass (59:11.026) Let's see what else is going on in the world here. Patrick Bass (59:19.41) have you let me ask you this have you heard about you know what a michelin star is right yeah it's a sign that i mean it's like the best food right so a taco stand was a taco stand was recently got a michelin star Tom Russell (59:25.171) Mm -hmm. Yeah. Tom Russell (59:31.027) Mm -hmm. Tom Russell (59:43.379) Do you think they're just running out of restaurants at this point or is it that good? Patrick Bass (59:43.698) You think they're just running out of restaurants at this point? Or is it that good? I don't know, but it's a little 10 foot by 10 foot taco shack called Mexico City Tacos. I'm trying to figure out what country this is not in America. It's... But they use meat that is specifically from a cow's rib, a specific cow's rib. Tom Russell (59:59.987) okay. Patrick Bass (01:00:09.554) And he says, the secret of the taco is its simplicity. I mean, it's a taco. It has only a tortilla and red or green sauce and the meat. That's it. That is the level of quality now required to earn a Michelin star. Tom Russell (01:00:30.227) saying a lot. Patrick Bass (01:00:30.546) saying a lot. Yeah, I guess. To me, if I was like a chef that had trained extensively and had this full breadth of knowledge about how to cook and prepare food and had earned a Michelin star and then this, you know, Jose and his taco stand. Patrick Bass (01:00:54.194) who has red and green sauce and a tortilla with rib meat gets a Michelin star, I would be upset. I mean, because it kind of cheapens it, I think. Yeah, I mean, especially if that's the only thing on the menu. Michelin star was supposed to encompass not just the food, but the atmosphere. that's a great point. Yeah. Have you did you see that movie burnt? Tom Russell (01:01:03.411) Yeah, I mean, especially if that's the only thing on the menu. I thought the Michelin Star was supposed to encompass not just the food, but the atmosphere and service and things like that. Yeah. Tom Russell (01:01:17.075) No. Patrick Bass (01:01:19.378) What is the name of the guy that was in, I always forget his name, he was in Hangover. Tom Russell (01:01:27.763) There's a lot of guys in Hangover. Patrick Bass (01:01:28.21) Well, and he was also he was also Chris Kyle in American Sniper Bradley Cooper. So okay Bradley Cooper was the chef in burnt and you know, he had earned I think one or two Michelin stars and then he went, you know the premise of the movies he went through this drug rehab thing and then he was making his great comeback and you're right and the whole thing down to the presentation down to the service. Tom Russell (01:01:34.003) Bradley Cooper. Mm -hmm. Patrick Bass (01:01:57.49) if there was a water drop on a spoon, forget it, you know? And now we have a taco stand winning it. And it may be a great taco, I bet it is a great taco. I'd probably get one, but how much do you charge for a taco that's earned a Michelin star? I'm thinking like 25 bucks. Well, now he is, yeah. Tom Russell (01:02:00.787) Mm -hmm. Tom Russell (01:02:10.451) Mm -hmm. Yeah. Tom Russell (01:02:14.803) Well, I know - Tom Russell (01:02:20.179) I'm sure they're out there, but honestly, Patrick, I've never had a bad taco. So I don't know. I've got nothing to base what a good like a Michelin star when how good that would be. Patrick Bass (01:02:23.602) I'm sure they're out there but honestly Patrick I've never had a bad taco. I haven't either. I got nothing to base what a good like a Michelin star one how good that would be. Yeah. Do you do you like the flour corn tortillas? Tom Russell (01:02:42.995) It really depends on my mood. I'd say generally the corn tortillas. When I was younger, I preferred the flour, but as I've gotten older, I like that texture difference. Patrick Bass (01:02:43.314) It really depends on my mood. I'd say generally the corn tortillas. When I was younger, I preferred the flour, but as I've gotten older, I like that texture difference. So do you like the little street tacos? What are you talking about? Yeah, I make homemade tacos at least a couple times a month. But nothing fancy. I just use the ground turkey or something. OK. Tom Russell (01:02:55.315) Yeah, I mean homemade, I make homemade tacos like at least a couple times a month. Nothing fancy, I mean I just use like the ground turkey or something and nothing crazy, but if you use the right spices, you know, some ground cumin, stuff like that, you can make it really, really good. Patrick Bass (01:03:07.186) nothing crazy but if you use the right spices you know some ground cumin stuff like that you can make it really really good i agree yeah you know i grew up in san antonio and we have a specific kind of mexican food there called tex -mex And honestly, it's, I didn't think it was a real thing until I left Texas and went to, you know, a Mexican food restaurant and other parts of the country. And it's not the same Tex -Mex is a specific kind of Mexican food. It's very unique to that region in that area. And, and, you know, whenever we go back to visit, I mean, I'm like, Tom Russell (01:03:36.691) yeah. Patrick Bass (01:03:41.522) that you know obviously seeing my family is great but then I'm like I've got this list of places I want to go that have good Tex -Mex because honestly I have not found I found some good Mexican food in Arkansas but I haven't found any Tex -Mex. It is interesting though because I think another thing that Texas does that a lot of places don't is their chili is made different and that's actually a legitimate like Mexican Tom Russell (01:03:55.571) Hmm. It is interesting though, because I think another thing that Texas does that a lot of places don't is their chili is made different. And that's actually a legitimate like Mexican. I don't want to say recipe, but style of cooking chili, like there's no beans. They don't use beans at all. Which I didn't know, but I thought that was really interesting. Patrick Bass (01:04:12.882) recipe but style of cooking chili like there's no beans yeah they don't use beans no it's it's me which i didn't know and i thought that was really interesting yeah you can start a civil war over that the beans no beans have you ever done it i'm not that invested in it have you ever done a chili cook -off no i was in one i was living in seattle and i entered one but the the caveat was you had to use spam Tom Russell (01:04:25.523) I mean, I'm not that invested in it, but no. Patrick Bass (01:04:43.698) your meat had to be spam. I think spam, Hormel or somebody was putting out doing the contest. Yeah. So I didn't win, but it was a lot of fun. Yeah. I found out spam stands for spiced ham. Tom Russell (01:04:48.339) be interesting. I don't know if I would seek it out, but I would try it. Patrick Bass (01:05:02.258) Well, I gotta tell you, Tom, we're coming up on the hour, so I want to be respectful of everybody's time. I have really enjoyed our conversation. I'm so glad you came on the show. This has been fun. I mean, it's just so natural. I feel like we could talk for another hour. But we'll save it for another time. Again. Tom Russell (01:05:10.963) Me too. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Tom Russell (01:05:17.199) for sure, yeah. Patrick Bass (01:05:23.25) Tom Russell, former Marine, good friend of mine and just an all around good guy. Thank you so much for being with us. My name is Patrick Bass. This is the Vanguard Radio Network Patrick Bass Show. Just real quick, I've got a couple of books out. I'd love for you to check it out. The first one is The Modern Gentleman, A Guide to Modern Manhood. If you've got a young man in your house who's a teenager approaching, you know, getting ready for college, it'd be a great book for them to read. The other one is Burn Your Ships, and it's the story about Hernan Cortez who... traveled from Spain to Veracruz, Mexico and when they got there his army was defeated and wanted to go back home. So to ensure success he ordered the ships scuttled and burned them in the bay, thereby ensuring that the only path forward was success or death. So Burn Your Ships is a show about overcoming adversity, building resilience, and achieving your goals. Both of those books are available on Amazon. Or you can go to my website, pwbass .com, and check them out. Again, thank you so much for being with us this past hour. And I hope to talk to you and see you guys again really soon. Thanks for listening to the Patrick Bass Show on the Vanguard Radio Network. The Patrick Bass Show is copyrighted 2023, all rights reserved, and is produced and distributed by Vanguard Radio LLC, Fort Smith, Arkansas. For more information, visit us on the web at www .vanguardradio .net. Hey, could you turn that down? Never!

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